GDG- Interest in the Civil War

Thu May 1 15:35:18 CDT 2008

I have been intersted in the Civil War for several years now, since I was in 5th Grade actually. I am in 11th now. I plan to become a history professor as I am generally interested in US history from 1760's to the 1870's with an emphasis on the Civil War. I was asked a interesting question by a teacher. How many people do I think are interested in the Civil War vs. The Founding Period. I have already thought the civil War is much more "popular" though there seems to be an influx of interest in the Founding Period. My quess was that several million people are interested in the Civil War. What would you say? > From: gettysburg-request at arthes.com> Subject: Gettysburg Digest, Vol 47, Issue 62> To: gettysburg at arthes.com> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:00:44 -0500> > Send Gettysburg mailing list submissions to> gettysburg at arthes.com> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://mailman.arthes.com/mailman/listinfo/gettysburg> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> gettysburg-request at arthes.com> > You can reach the person managing the list at> gettysburg-owner at arthes.com> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of Gettysburg digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: The new VC (collins.d at comcast.net)> 2. RE: Trailhead Graphics new Gettysburg map (Tom Ryan)> 3. RE: GDG Muster (manassas1 at comcast.net)> 4. RE: Teaching Gettysburg (Tom Ryan)> 5. RE: New Visitor Center - OR's (Tom Ryan)> 6. Shameless Self-Promotion/Lincoln's Labels (Schmidt, James)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:30:04 +0000> From: collins.d at comcast.net> Subject: Re: GDG- The new VC> To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com>> Message-ID:> <043020081530.15483.48189078000C68D700003C7B22007637040BD29C02070404010C at comcast.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain> > Some would say it still doesn't!> > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Laurence Schiller <lds307 at northwestern.edu> > > > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > > > > > Some would say Harrisburg still serves no useful purpose... > > > > Laurie > > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 11:59 AM, > > wrote: > > > > > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > > > > > > > > Andy, > > > > > > I believe that Sherman's campaign was simply part of a concerted > > > effort to end the war. Grant was the other half and they were both > > > carrying out Lincoln's national vision. > > > > > > Lee was involved in, despite the size of his force, more of a raid > > > than an invasion. It had no purpose other than to keep the war out > > > of Virginia. > > > > > > As to Harrisburg, Lincoln, Meade et al were willing to let it go. > > > It served no purpose. > > > Frankly, if lee had gotten part of his army up there, they may have > > > been trapped. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Jack > > > ---- The Mills wrote: > > >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >> > > >> > > >> Margaret: > > >> > > >> The two types of campaigns are totally different. Sherman was > > >> trying to subdue a population, using a sort of "total war" > > >> mentality and whereas Lee was not. Lee is not able to march at > > >> will throughout the countryside with little or no opposition. > > >> > > >> Sherman was trying a long-term occupation of the territory he > > >> captured. He wasn't trying to "give it back" or let the > > >> Confederates re-occupy it. Lee never had any intention of staying > > >> north of Maryland past the summer. Had they captured Harrisburg > > >> and even defeated the AOP in battle, the Conderacy isn't going to > > >> try and hold any of that land north as they simply don't have the > > >> capabilities to build the supplies lines necessary to supply his > > >> army north of the Potomac. > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> Andy > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: Margaret D. Blough > > >> To: GDG > > >> Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:03:29 -0400 (EDT) > > >> Subject: Re: GDG- The new VC > > >> > > >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >> > > >> > > >> Actually, Ewell was within a few miles of Harrisburg and was about > > >> to make the final moves to take it when Lee called him back. > > >> Harrisburg had minimal defenses and, certainly, nothing on a par > > >> with veteran combat troops. > > >> > > >> I don't think the Confederates had any intention of holding > > >> Harrisburg or any other territory north of the Mason-Dixon Line > > >> for any length of time. As Sherman demonstrated the next year in > > >> Georgia, long-term occupation is not necessary to achieve the goal > > >> of demonstrating to citizens that their government is incapable of > > >> performing one of the most fundamental duties that a government > > >> has, defending its territory and its people against attack. In > > >> addition, this would have demonstrated to foreign governments that > > >> the Confederacy was a force to be reckoned with. Since it didn't > > >> happen, we'll never know what the foreign reaction would have been > > >> to the fall of Harrisburg, but it certainly couldn't have hurt the > > >> Confederacy's prospects for recognition. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> > > >> Margaret > > >> > > >> -------------- Original message -------------- > > >> From: The Mills > > >> > > >>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> All intentions and actually doing it are two different things. > > >>> Capturing > > >>> Harrisburg is a far cry from your stated intentions of capturing > > >>> Baltimore and > > >>> Philadelphia in your original post. > > >>> > > >>> McClellan had all intentions of capturing Richmond in 1862, > > >>> Burnside in late > > >>> 1862, but did they do it? Intentions are drastically different > > >>> from actually > > >>> being able to carry it out. > > >>> > > >>> Lee couldn't supply his army via the Cumberland Valley as he > > >>> couldn't keep his > > >>> lines secure. He cut his lines because of this very fact once he > > >>> crossed the > > >>> Potomac. He didn't have the means nor the infrastructure to > > >>> supply his army in > > >>> enemy territory especially the further and deeper he penetrated. > > >>> > > >>> People state different things for different reasons. One of the > > >>> main reasons > > >>> was to keep his ANV in-tact and together and for that, he needed > > >>> an offensive > > >>> campaign and he had to come up with the reasons for this campaign > > >>> and why it was > > >>> more important than to send a large detachment of his army to > > >>> relive Vicksburg. > > >>> Lee couldn't see the big picture outside of Virginia and why it > > >>> would have been > > >>> better for the Confederacy as a whole to save Vicksburg. He could > > >>> only see > > >>> Virginia and his precious ANV, so he had to come up with some > > >>> pretty good > > >>> reasons his campaign was more beneficial than saving Vicksburg. > > >>> > > >>> After 1862, there is no forgeign intervention from England and > > >>> France, the > > >>> Emancipation Proclamation sealed that. France wasn't going to act > > >>> without > > >>> England and England wasn't going to openly support a government > > >>> that supported > > >>> slavery. > > >>> > > >>> The ANV, as seen after Gettysburg, could not have done much with > > >>> a defeated AOP > > >>> until resupplied. Also: you seem to think a defeated AOP is going > > >>> to real back > > >>> to DC and leave the entire area open to the ravages of the ANV. > > >>> The AOP is not > > >>> the same in 1863 as it had been previously. > > >>> > > >>> Thanks > > >>> Andy > > >>> > > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>> From: collins d > > >>> To: GDG > > >>> Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:35:21 -0400 (EDT) > > >>> Subject: Re: GDG- The new VC > > >>> > > >>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Please refer to the Official Records of the Civil War. Lee had > > >>> all the > > >>> intentions to capture Harrisburg. And if he had been able to > > >>> defeat the AoP, who > > >>> was going to stop him? The important word here "defeat". > > >>> > > >>> Your reason for Lee invading the North is a minor reason. His > > >>> reasons for > > >>> invading are mentioned in Sears and Coddington...to keep the > > >>> initiative so that > > >>> the AoP has to respond to the ANV marches and advances, to allow > > >>> the farmers of > > >>> the Shenendoah Valley time to harvest, to raid the North to live > > >>> of the land and > > >>> to gain supplies, to influence the elections of 1864, and to > > >>> influence England > > >>> and France to intervene. > > >>> > > >>> Lee could have been supplied via the Cumberland Valley. > > >>> > > >>> It is nothing but a pipe dream.to think the ANV would have > > >>> remained static if > > >>> they had defeated the AoP and sent them back reeeling to the > > >>> defenses of > > >>> Washington. > > >>> > > >>> -------------- Original message -------------- > > >>> From: The Mills > > >>> > > >>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Collins D: > > >>>> > > >>>> Lets not forget another reason Lee invades the North: to keep a > > >>>> major portion > > >>>> of his precious ANV from being sent West to relieve pressure on > > >>>> Vicksburg. If > > >>>> Lee remains on the defensive, his precious ANV is used as > > >>>> reinforcements to > > >>>> relieve Vicksburg. Only an offensive campaign keeps it intact. > > >>>> > > >>>> Lee is never able to penetrate as far as Philadelphia or > > >>>> Baltmore and after a > > >>>> battle with the AOP (in which case the AOP would be defeated to > > >>>> a point they > > >>>> would have to fall back to DC), would never be in a position to > > >>>> renew a > > >>> campaign > > >>>> and capture any city. Look what happened after Gettysburg, the > > >>>> ANV had no > > >>>> ammunition to renew the contest had they wanted to. Had > > >>>> Pickett's Charge > > >>>> succeeded, what would the ANV had done anyway? They had no > > >>>> ammunition to > > >>>> continue anyway and no supply line to get more. > > >>>> > > >>>> It is a pipe dream to think the ANV had the logistics to > > >>>> penetrate that deep > > >>> and > > >>>> to have a campaign that could be more than one battle. > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks > > >>>> Andy > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>> From: collins d > > >>>> To: GDG > > >>>> Sent: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:32:21 -0400 (EDT) > > >>>> Subject: Re: GDG- The new VC > > >>>> > > >>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> Let's try and remember the reasons that Lee invaded the North. > > >>>> One was to > > >>>> encourage the peace democrats and try to influence the elections > > >>>> in 1864. If > > >>>> the AoP is defeated, and falls back to DC, the Lee could have > > >>>> captured..Harrisburg, Philadelphia, Baltimore. Who knows what > > >>>> would have > > >>>> happened next? > > >>>> Yes ..history does move on...but events play a big part. If the > > >>>> Japanese > > >>> defeat > > >>>> and sink the US carriers at Midway...and then invade > > >>>> Hawaii...who knows how > > >>>> long WW2 would have lasted. > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -------------- Original message -------------- > > >>>> From: Laurence Schiller > > >>>> > > >>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Greetings all - I think it is a little simplistic to suggest > > >>>>> that if > > >>>>> Gettysburg is lost, then the war is lost, slavery goes on forever, > > >>>>> etc. etc. Aside from the questions of losing Gettysburg and yet > > >>>>> still > > >>>>> winning the war (and we had this discussion some time ago), the > > >>>>> assumption that history doesn't keep moving on is rather > > >>>>> flawed. It > > >>>>> is easy to compare a victorious south with South Africa and it's > > >>>>> move from slavery to Apartheid, but even in that radical case, > > >>>>> things > > >>>>> have changed radically in 150 years. If we change one variable, > > >>>>> Gettysburg, we have to allow the shifting of many and to say > > >>>>> that no > > >>>>> civil rights leader emerges, baseball doesn't get Latin > > >>>>> Players, even > > >>>>> that the N and S might not have formed some type of federation > > >>>>> in the > > >>>>> 20th century as protection against European (or Chinese) power, is > > >>>>> very simplistic. History is complicated, which is why, I guess, I > > >>>>> don't like alternative history a la what if Stonewall had been > > >>>>> there... So I have to agree that it is a bit of a stretch. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> best, > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Laurie Schiller > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Apr 28, 2008, at 12:25 PM, collins.d at comcast.net wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> No I don't think so. If there was no Civil War...no land grant > > >>>>>> colleges, no railroad to the weas coast. No freedom for Afro- > > >>>>>> Americans....there fore no Martin Luther King, no Lary Doby, no > > >>>>>> Jackie Robinson....and probably no Latin American players. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -------------- Original message -------------- > > >>>>>> From: JIM COOKE > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Little bit of a stretch there. > > >>>>>>> JC > > >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > > >>>>>>> From: collins d > > >>>>>>> To: GDG > > >>>>>>> Sent: Mon, 28 Apr 2008 10:48:49 -0400 (EDT) > > >>>>>>> Subject: RE: GDG- The new VC > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> If there hadn't been a Gettysburg, there would have never been a > > >>>>>>> Matin Luther > > >>>>>>> King, nor a Jackie Robinson, nor a Christa McAulliffe. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -------------- Original message -------------- > > >>>>>>> From: Dennis Lawrence > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> . > > >>>>>>>>> Some of it left me scratching my head. Especially why was > > >>>>>>>>> Martin > > >>>>>>>>> Luther King > > >>>>>>>>> included and what did he have to do with Gettysburg? I have > > >>>>>>>>> ideas on what > > >>>>>>>>> that was supposed to tell the visitor, but that confused me.. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Hello, > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> My humble contribution to the link between Lincoln and King > > >>>>>>>> and the > > >>>>>>>> aftermath of the war. . > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://www.arthes.com/composition/abemartin.htm > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> BTW, one question. Do you know where they get the 1/3 of the > > >>>>>>>>> families owned > > >>>>>>>>> slaves in the south? I have never seen that anywhere! > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Here is the most trusted source on the Internet - Esteemed > > >>>>>>>> Member > > >>>>>>>> Jim > > >>>>>>>> Epperson's site": > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> http://members.aol.com/jfepperson/stat.html > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Take Care > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Dennis > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>>> - > > >>>>>>>> You may unsubscribe by going to > > >>>>>>>> http://mailman.arthes.com/mailman/listinfo/gettysburg > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> You can add yourself to the GDG map at: > > >>>>>>>> http://www.frappr.com/gettysburgdiscussiongroup > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> View archived posts from May 2004 - present at > > >>>>>>>> http://mailman.arthes.com/pipermail/gettysburg/ > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>>>> You may unsubscribe by going to > > >>>>>>> http://mailman.arthes.com/mailman/listinfo/gettysburg > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> You can add yourself to the GDG map at: > > >>>>>>> http://www.frappr.com/gettysburgdiscussiongroup > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> View archived posts from May 2004 - 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present at > > http://mailman.arthes.com/pipermail/gettysburg/ > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:40:28 -0400> From: "Tom Ryan" <pennmardel at mchsi.com>> Subject: RE: GDG- Trailhead Graphics new Gettysburg map> To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>> Message-ID: <FEEOKINCPINMNKHDCDCEKEJJDKAA.pennmardel at mchsi.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > <<Did you have the paper version or the waterproof version?>>> > This is the waterproof, tear-resistent version that is now in three parts> but fast moving toward six. It separated along the folds. This is the> Gettysburg monuments map that I probably have not used more than 20 times> over several years.> > Tom> > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:42:41 +0000> From: manassas1 at comcast.net> Subject: RE: GDG- GDG Muster> To: GDG <gettysburg at arthes.com>> Message-ID:> <043020081542.12594.48189371000C8452000031322215593414CE9C0E9C9C0E020E03 at comcast.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Sal....> > Can we register by mail in the meantime????? We're only five weeks away from muster.> > Eileen Murphy> > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Steve Goertzen" <sgoertzen at AAG.DESE.com> > > > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:46:52 -0400> From: "Tom Ryan" <pennmardel at mchsi.com>> Subject: RE: GDG- Teaching Gettysburg> To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>> Message-ID: <FEEOKINCPINMNKHDCDCEEEJKDKAA.pennmardel at mchsi.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > <<Any advice would be appreciated, particularly in regards to how much I can> cover and what that age group would be most interested in.>>> > Bob,> > Your outline sounds good. You should be able to cover a lot in about 35-40> minutes, and suggest you leave at least 10 minutes for questions. Also,> props and slides would be good attention-getters for the younger crowd. A> PowerPoint presentation would be best, but use illustrations and not text.> Reading from slides is deadly, while showing maps and photos, etc. is what> groups seem to like best.> > If you have a few CW artifacts to bring to class, they would make good> props.> > Good luck,> > Tom Ryan> > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 5> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:52:10 -0400> From: "Tom Ryan" <pennmardel at mchsi.com>> Subject: RE: GDG- New Visitor Center - OR's> To: "GDG" <gettysburg at arthes.com>> Message-ID: <FEEOKINCPINMNKHDCDCEMEJKDKAA.pennmardel at mchsi.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"> > <<I agree with you about the usefulness of the ORs, I don't disagree with you there. The point I was trying to make in my discussions with collins d is that he seemed to say that I needed to read the ORs as my only source of information regarding the Gettysburg Campaign, and as to that, I disagreed due to the reasons I stated, not that the ORs themselves are not useful.>>> > Hi Andy,> > I was not following the discussion, primarily for lack of time. I just jumped in when Ed, I believe it was, mentioned the usefulness of the ORs. I was sharing one of my experiences with them.> > Sorry I missed out on the discussion, but have been involved elsewhere.> > Regards, Tom > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 6> Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:26:43 -0500> From: "Schmidt, James" <JSchmidt at lexpharma.com>> Subject: GDG- Shameless Self-Promotion/Lincoln's Labels> To: <gettysburg at arthes.com>> Message-ID:> <1EC36F3E1AAA664681D226582FF6F08102E8FEFE at wdexchmb01.lexicon.lexgen.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"> > Just wanted to send a quick note to let everyone know that the book I> have been "hinting" at in various posts on the GDG over the past 18> months is now off at the printers and will be available soon.> > "Lincoln's Labels: America's Best Known Brands and the Civil War" is> being published by Edinborough Press (Roseville, MN)...the book> discusses the important role that companies such as Procter & Gamble,> Brooks Brothers, Borden's, Tiffany's, Scientific American magazine, du> Pont, Squibb, American Express, Wells Fargo, and others played in the> war, and - in turn (and most important) - how the war affected the> companies. > > The Battle of Gettysburg is featured several times in the book...as> examples, in my du Pont chapter, I begin with a narrative of the> artillery bombardment on Day 3...in my chapter on the express companies> I begin with a narrative of the story of Lt. William Fisher - 10th US> Infantry - who was killed in action on Day 2...the colors of the Iron> Brigade - including at Gettysburg - form the foundation of my chapter on> Tiffany & Co. > > The book isn't "officially" released until August 1...I'll keep you> posted when I know it's available.> > Till then, you can:> > A) see me in Chicagoland (Arlington Heights, IL) on Friday, May 2, where> I will be talking about the book with the Northern IL CWRT (and selling> some advance double top secret special edition softcovers!)> > B) visit my blog at http://civilwarmed.blogspot.com where I have> periodically posted some capsule histories of a few of the subject> companies (and have recently posted the dust jacket!)> > C) visit the publisher and my author page at:> http://www.edinborough.com/Authors/Jim_Schmidt.html> > D) visit amazon and use the "let me know when it's ready" device at:> http://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Labels-Americas-Known-Brands/dp/188902021> 4> > I've received some wonderful support and advice from many people on the> GDG and historians at GNMP, and for that I am most appreciative.> > Those of you who read my "Medical Department" column in *The Civil War> News* will be happy to hear (I hope!) that my next book - due to be> published in early 2009 - is an edited collection of invited essays on> Civil War medicine from some of my favorite "interviewees" of the past> few years...it will include expertly written chapters on urology,> neurology, mental health, medical education, pharmacy, amputation,> Confederate and Union invention, and other topics.> > All My Best,> > Jim Schmidt> > > > The contents of this communication, including any attachments, may be confidential, privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. 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