GDG- Re: Last Full Measure Sheridan vs Warren

[Margaret D. Blough]

<<He knew Stong Vincent, Stephen Weed, and along with a number of junior
officers in Vincent's brigade. He lost a lot of friends at GB. Personally I
think his whole thinking of war changes after GB.. That there has to be a
better way.... <<

In addition, during and after the Overland Campaign, I think Warren was showing pretty clear signs of what we'd call PTSD now or what would have been called combat fatigue in WW II or shell shock in WW I. I think he was far too sensitive for his own good.  When Chamberlain writes about it in "Passing of the Armies" it seems clear that he, like others in the Fifth Corps, saw Warren's flaws as a corps commander but also saw him as an honorable man who had given dedicated service to his country and who actually did a decent job at Five Forks with all of the hurdles place in his way.  That he needed to be replaced, I think they, for the most part, accepted, but they could not and did not accept that he deserved to be removed for Five Forks, especially in the brutal and humiliating way in which Sheridan did it and they testified to that effect at the Court of Inquiry after the war.


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From: "Jim Lamason" <jlamason at verizon.net> 

> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
> 
> 
> Fair.. 
> The biggest problem is in his Intro he says that he has not included certain 
> letters, orders and diaries as they were not what he needed to draw the 
> conclusions he did. 
> 
> One more thing.. GKW was not without tremendous faults. He was strong willed 
> (Still apparent to day in the family btw), opinionated and afraid of no one. 
> 
> However, up till he gets Corp command I have not been able to find where he 
> does what he did at that point. Tell his superiors he thought he had found a 
> better way. 
> 
> Bruce, I have found writings that lead me to think, he thought his way was 
> better because it didn't "needlessly" sacrifice the lives of his men. 
> 
> I have been researching trying to find what sparked this line of thinking.. 
> Where did this come from? 
> 
> There are several events that have a profound impact on him. 
> First is the "battle" with the Black Hills Sioux. He saw women and children 
> shot because they were part of the battle. It so upset him that he wrote in 
> his journal about. And he notes that when he found a wounded little Sioux 
> girl, he got others to help him bandage her wounds and take care of her. 
> This is a full 5 years BEFORE Gettysburg. 1858. 
> 
> The Gettysburg itself. In Attack and Defense of Little Round Top he writes 
> to Noron, that Patty O'Rouke was lovely young man. Patty had been one of his 
> students in 1860 at the academy. He also was good friends with Charles 
> Hazlett. Hazlett commands the battery that he is supporting at 2 Bull Run. 
> This battery serves with his small brigade as long as he commands it. 
> 
> He knew Stong Vincent, Stephen Weed, and along with a number of junior 
> officers in Vincent's brigade. He lost a lot of friends at GB. Personally I 
> think his whole thinking of war changes after GB.. That there has to be a 
> better way.... 
> 
> Jim Lamason h 
> 
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> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 5:36 PM 
> To: gettysburg at arthes.com 
> Subject: Re: GDG- Re: Last Full Measure Sheridan vs Warren 
> 
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
> 
> 
> 
> In a message dated 10/22/2007 9:06:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
> jlamason at verizon.net writes: 
> 
> For me at least, when it comes to GKW, I am more then a little upset with 
> the portrayal of him by the "professional historians". 
> 
> 
> 
> Jim, how do you feel about David Jordan's "'Happiness Is Not My Companion': 
> 
> The Life of General G.K. Warren"? 
> 
> Bruce Trinque 
> Amston, CT 
> 
> 
> 
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