GDG- RE: Gettysburg Digest, Vol 42, Issue 10
Margaret D. Blough
mdblough1 at comcast.net
Sat Nov 3 18:38:40 CDT 2007
It is a gorgeous book. I should know. I own a copy.
Regards,
Margaret
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> 1. RE: Water Park proposed for Gettysburg (Margaret D. Blough)
> 2. Re: The water park (Alan D. Brunelle)
> 3. RE: Was Water Park, Now Preservation. (Jim Lamason)
> 4. RE: Water Park proposed for Gettysburg (Jim Lamason)
> 5. Re: Water Park proposed for Gettysburg (jack)
> 6. Preservation (Jim Lamason)
> 7. Re: Preservation (jack)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 04:24:03 +0000
> From: mdblough1 at comcast.net (Margaret D. Blough)
> Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> To: GDG
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> Jim,
>
> It pretty much boils down to money. Someone and/or some organization has to
> purchase land or, at the very least, an easement running with title to the
> property, in order to protect it. The NPS cannot acquire land outside of
> park boundaries. Zoning can help, but zoning laws can be changed, and this
> is still an area that is not terribly comfortable with zoning. Where the
> land is still owned by the heirs of the original owners, if the heirs are
> interested in historic preservation that can help keep the price down, but
> the fact is that, when an estate's principal asset is decidely non-liquid
> but taxes and other expenses still must be paid, owners often are not in a
> financial position to turn away would-be commercial buyers indefinitely.
>
> Regards,
>
> Margaret
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Jim Lamason"
>
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > Dear Tom,
> >
> > Ok a deep breath here.. I realize I am "preaching to the choir" but man
> > when, where or if ever is this going to stop?
> >
> > I don't understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > I am trying, TRYING to understand the thought process about this..
> >
> > Look I know the area needs jobs. Ok that's a given... But where does the
> > encroachment on this historic place, this hallowed ground stop?
> >
> > This is getting really scary. Especially after being down there three
> weeks
> > ago and walking the Herr Ridge road and Longstreets Countermarch.
> >
> > McMansions popping up like d*mn mushrooms!!
> >
> > Sighhhhhhhhh
> >
> > Ok deep breath again. Would some one PLEASE help me out understanding this
>
> > ???
> >
> > Jim Lamason
> > Middlesex, NJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
>
> > On Behalf Of Tom Shay
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:03 AM
> > To: gettysburg at gdg.org
> > Subject: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > The front page of today's Harrrisburg newspaper has an article on proposed
>
> > 200-acre indoor water park that would be larger than Hersheypark.
> >
> > The article is online at:
> > http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/adams/article262096.ece
> >
> > Tom Shay - Cressona, PA
> >
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:41:23 -0400
> From: "Alan D. Brunelle"
> Subject: Re: GDG- The water park
> To: GDG
> Message-ID: <472C6C73.7070202 at hp.com>
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>
> Jim Lamason wrote:
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > Its going to have to happen that way again....
> >
> > There are two things that need to happen.. But I am so far from it.. And I
> > don't know how to get it started, nor support it.
> >
> > I was talking to my wife today. I figured from what I think Wayne
> Wachsmuth
> > told me once. Draw a circle 50 miles around Gettysburg and that's the area
> > in which the two armies were........... That's incredible. So that means
> if
> > you were able to square it off, 50 x 50 miles.. that's 2500 SQUARE
> > MILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Incredible.
> >
> > Jim Lamason
> > Middlesex, NJ
> >
> Hi Jim -
>
> But if it were really a 50 mile radius, we're talking 50 x 50 x
> 3.141592... = 7,854 square miles (which is a little over 5 *million*
> acres - I think its about 640 acres to the square mile).
>
> I don't know what land is going for around the 'burg, but even
> conservative estimates would put the worth at (maybe?) a few hundred
> billion dollars...
>
> Alan
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:03:40 -0400
> From: "Jim Lamason"
> Subject: RE: GDG- Was Water Park, Now Preservation.
> To: "'GDG'"
> Message-ID: <0JQX000Y1OEKPFT1 at vms040.mailsrvcs.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Alan,
>
> Look I am a realist.. You cant save ALL of it. No way. Within a 50 mile
> radius that would include Harrisburg, Emmitsburg, Maybe Fredrick,
> Chambersburg, Carlisle, Hanover. There is no way...
>
> That I understand.. I am thinking out loud here. And I realize that a lot of
> this is beyond reasonable. But there has to be a way to tell the story. Well
> to quote Paul Harvey "The rest of the story"..
>
> One thought on the side. Does any know how this is being if at all,
> addressed in the new VC?
>
> Jim Lamason
> Middlesex, NJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> On Behalf Of Alan D. Brunelle
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 8:41 AM
> To: GDG
> Subject: Re: GDG- The water park
>
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>
>
> Jim Lamason wrote:
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > Its going to have to happen that way again....
> >
> > There are two things that need to happen.. But I am so far from it.. And I
> > don't know how to get it started, nor support it.
> >
> > I was talking to my wife today. I figured from what I think Wayne
> Wachsmuth
> > told me once. Draw a circle 50 miles around Gettysburg and that's the area
> > in which the two armies were........... That's incredible. So that means
> if
> > you were able to square it off, 50 x 50 miles.. that's 2500 SQUARE
> > MILES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > Incredible.
> >
> > Jim Lamason
> > Middlesex, NJ
> >
> Hi Jim -
>
> But if it were really a 50 mile radius, we're talking 50 x 50 x
> 3.141592... = 7,854 square miles (which is a little over 5 *million*
> acres - I think its about 640 acres to the square mile).
>
> I don't know what land is going for around the 'burg, but even
> conservative estimates would put the worth at (maybe?) a few hundred
> billion dollars...
>
> Alan
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:03:40 -0400
> From: "Jim Lamason"
> Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> To: "'GDG'"
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>
> Margaret,
>
> I understand that. There has to be a way to help.. Its takes creative
> thinking...
>
> I wonder if we could setup well a trust fund. If we could gather donations
> just for this purpose. That when land comes available, the funds are there
> to snatch it up.
>
> Hmmmm.. I know CWPT has been doing a lot of this, but they can only go so
> far.
>
> Jim Lamason
> Middlesex, NJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> On Behalf Of Margaret D. Blough
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:24 AM
> To: GDG
> Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
>
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>
>
> Jim,
>
> It pretty much boils down to money. Someone and/or some organization has to
> purchase land or, at the very least, an easement running with title to the
> property, in order to protect it. The NPS cannot acquire land outside of
> park boundaries. Zoning can help, but zoning laws can be changed, and this
> is still an area that is not terribly comfortable with zoning. Where the
> land is still owned by the heirs of the original owners, if the heirs are
> interested in historic preservation that can help keep the price down, but
> the fact is that, when an estate's principal asset is decidely non-liquid
> but taxes and other expenses still must be paid, owners often are not in a
> financial position to turn away would-be commercial buyers indefinitely.
>
> Regards,
>
> Margaret
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Jim Lamason"
>
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > Dear Tom,
> >
> > Ok a deep breath here.. I realize I am "preaching to the choir" but man
> > when, where or if ever is this going to stop?
> >
> > I don't understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >
> > I am trying, TRYING to understand the thought process about this..
> >
> > Look I know the area needs jobs. Ok that's a given... But where does the
> > encroachment on this historic place, this hallowed ground stop?
> >
> > This is getting really scary. Especially after being down there three
> weeks
> > ago and walking the Herr Ridge road and Longstreets Countermarch.
> >
> > McMansions popping up like d*mn mushrooms!!
> >
> > Sighhhhhhhhh
> >
> > Ok deep breath again. Would some one PLEASE help me out understanding this
>
> > ???
> >
> > Jim Lamason
> > Middlesex, NJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
>
> > On Behalf Of Tom Shay
> > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:03 AM
> > To: gettysburg at gdg.org
> > Subject: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > The front page of today's Harrrisburg newspaper has an article on proposed
>
> > 200-acre indoor water park that would be larger than Hersheypark.
> >
> > The article is online at:
> > http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/adams/article262096.ece
> >
> > Tom Shay - Cressona, PA
> >
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 09:20:13 -0500
> From: "jack"
> Subject: Re: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> To: "GDG"
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>
> I think what you are wanting is the sickles plan.
> Regards,
>
> Jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Lamason"
> To: "'GDG'"
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:03 AM
> Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
>
>
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > Margaret,
> >
> > I understand that. There has to be a way to help.. Its takes creative
> > thinking...
> >
> > I wonder if we could setup well a trust fund. If we could gather donations
> > just for this purpose. That when land comes available, the funds are there
> > to snatch it up.
> >
> > Hmmmm.. I know CWPT has been doing a lot of this, but they can only go so
> > far.
> >
> > Jim Lamason
> > Middlesex, NJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Margaret D. Blough
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:24 AM
> > To: GDG
> > Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > It pretty much boils down to money. Someone and/or some organization has
> > to
> > purchase land or, at the very least, an easement running with title to the
> > property, in order to protect it. The NPS cannot acquire land outside of
> > park boundaries. Zoning can help, but zoning laws can be changed, and
> > this
> > is still an area that is not terribly comfortable with zoning. Where the
> > land is still owned by the heirs of the original owners, if the heirs are
> > interested in historic preservation that can help keep the price down, but
> > the fact is that, when an estate's principal asset is decidely non-liquid
> > but taxes and other expenses still must be paid, owners often are not in a
> > financial position to turn away would-be commercial buyers indefinitely.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Margaret
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Jim Lamason"
> >
> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Tom,
> >>
> >> Ok a deep breath here.. I realize I am "preaching to the choir" but man
> >> when, where or if ever is this going to stop?
> >>
> >> I don't understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> I am trying, TRYING to understand the thought process about this..
> >>
> >> Look I know the area needs jobs. Ok that's a given... But where does the
> >> encroachment on this historic place, this hallowed ground stop?
> >>
> >> This is getting really scary. Especially after being down there three
> > weeks
> >> ago and walking the Herr Ridge road and Longstreets Countermarch.
> >>
> >> McMansions popping up like d*mn mushrooms!!
> >>
> >> Sighhhhhhhhh
> >>
> >> Ok deep breath again. Would some one PLEASE help me out understanding
> >> this
> >
> >> ???
> >>
> >> Jim Lamason
> >> Middlesex, NJ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
> >> [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> >
> >> On Behalf Of Tom Shay
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:03 AM
> >> To: gettysburg at gdg.org
> >> Subject: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >>
> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>
> >>
> >> The front page of today's Harrrisburg newspaper has an article on
> >> proposed
> >
> >> 200-acre indoor water park that would be larger than Hersheypark.
> >>
> >> The article is online at:
> >> http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/adams/article262096.ece
> >>
> >> Tom Shay - Cressona, PA
> >>
> >> __________________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 10:29:45 -0400
> From: "Jim Lamason"
> Subject: GDG- Preservation
> To: "'GDG'"
> Message-ID: <0JQX0011MPM08C66 at vms042.mailsrvcs.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Jack,
>
> You had to bring up THAT name ! LOL! Here we go again ! ;-)
> Jim Lamason
> Middlesex, NJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> On Behalf Of jack
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:20 AM
> To: GDG
> Subject: Re: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
>
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>
>
> I think what you are wanting is the sickles plan.
> Regards,
>
> Jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Lamason"
> To: "'GDG'"
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:03 AM
> Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
>
>
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > Margaret,
> >
> > I understand that. There has to be a way to help.. Its takes creative
> > thinking...
> >
> > I wonder if we could setup well a trust fund. If we could gather donations
> > just for this purpose. That when land comes available, the funds are there
> > to snatch it up.
> >
> > Hmmmm.. I know CWPT has been doing a lot of this, but they can only go so
> > far.
> >
> > Jim Lamason
> > Middlesex, NJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> > On Behalf Of Margaret D. Blough
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:24 AM
> > To: GDG
> > Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > It pretty much boils down to money. Someone and/or some organization has
> > to
> > purchase land or, at the very least, an easement running with title to the
> > property, in order to protect it. The NPS cannot acquire land outside of
> > park boundaries. Zoning can help, but zoning laws can be changed, and
> > this
> > is still an area that is not terribly comfortable with zoning. Where the
> > land is still owned by the heirs of the original owners, if the heirs are
> > interested in historic preservation that can help keep the price down, but
> > the fact is that, when an estate's principal asset is decidely non-liquid
> > but taxes and other expenses still must be paid, owners often are not in a
> > financial position to turn away would-be commercial buyers indefinitely.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Margaret
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Jim Lamason"
> >
> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Dear Tom,
> >>
> >> Ok a deep breath here.. I realize I am "preaching to the choir" but man
> >> when, where or if ever is this going to stop?
> >>
> >> I don't understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>
> >> I am trying, TRYING to understand the thought process about this..
> >>
> >> Look I know the area needs jobs. Ok that's a given... But where does the
> >> encroachment on this historic place, this hallowed ground stop?
> >>
> >> This is getting really scary. Especially after being down there three
> > weeks
> >> ago and walking the Herr Ridge road and Longstreets Countermarch.
> >>
> >> McMansions popping up like d*mn mushrooms!!
> >>
> >> Sighhhhhhhhh
> >>
> >> Ok deep breath again. Would some one PLEASE help me out understanding
> >> this
> >
> >> ???
> >>
> >> Jim Lamason
> >> Middlesex, NJ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
> >> [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> >
> >> On Behalf Of Tom Shay
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:03 AM
> >> To: gettysburg at gdg.org
> >> Subject: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >>
> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>
> >>
> >> The front page of today's Harrrisburg newspaper has an article on
> >> proposed
> >
> >> 200-acre indoor water park that would be larger than Hersheypark.
> >>
> >> The article is online at:
> >> http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/adams/article262096.ece
> >>
> >> Tom Shay - Cressona, PA
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> Message: 7
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:01:36 -0500
> From: "jack"
> Subject: Re: GDG- Preservation
> To: "GDG"
> Message-ID: <000701c81e2a$6ed5e370$6701a8c0 at youra4783b7bb0>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
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>
> No, Sickles actually produced one of the early park Plans. It encompassed
> most of the active field.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Lamason"
> To: "'GDG'"
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:29 AM
> Subject: GDG- Preservation
>
>
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack,
> >
> > You had to bring up THAT name ! LOL! Here we go again ! ;-)
> > Jim Lamason
> > Middlesex, NJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> > On Behalf Of jack
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:20 AM
> > To: GDG
> > Subject: Re: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > I think what you are wanting is the sickles plan.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jack
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Lamason"
> > To: "'GDG'"
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:03 AM
> > Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >
> >
> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Margaret,
> >>
> >> I understand that. There has to be a way to help.. Its takes creative
> >> thinking...
> >>
> >> I wonder if we could setup well a trust fund. If we could gather
> >> donations
> >> just for this purpose. That when land comes available, the funds are
> >> there
> >> to snatch it up.
> >>
> >> Hmmmm.. I know CWPT has been doing a lot of this, but they can only go so
> >> far.
> >>
> >> Jim Lamason
> >> Middlesex, NJ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
> >> [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Margaret D. Blough
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:24 AM
> >> To: GDG
> >> Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >>
> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> It pretty much boils down to money. Someone and/or some organization has
> >> to
> >> purchase land or, at the very least, an easement running with title to
> >> the
> >> property, in order to protect it. The NPS cannot acquire land outside of
> >> park boundaries. Zoning can help, but zoning laws can be changed, and
> >> this
> >> is still an area that is not terribly comfortable with zoning. Where the
> >> land is still owned by the heirs of the original owners, if the heirs are
> >> interested in historic preservation that can help keep the price down,
> >> but
> >> the fact is that, when an estate's principal asset is decidely non-liquid
> >> but taxes and other expenses still must be paid, owners often are not in
> >> a
> >> financial position to turn away would-be commercial buyers indefinitely.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Margaret
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message --------------
> >> From: "Jim Lamason"
> >>
> >>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear Tom,
> >>>
> >>> Ok a deep breath here.. I realize I am "preaching to the choir" but man
> >>> when, where or if ever is this going to stop?
> >>>
> >>> I don't understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> I am trying, TRYING to understand the thought process about this..
> >>>
> >>> Look I know the area needs jobs. Ok that's a given... But where does the
> >>> encroachment on this historic place, this hallowed ground stop?
> >>>
> >>> This is getting really scary. Especially after being down there three
> >> weeks
> >>> ago and walking the Herr Ridge road and Longstreets Countermarch.
> >>>
> >>> McMansions popping up like d*mn mushrooms!!
> >>>
> >>> Sighhhhhhhhh
> >>>
> >>> Ok deep breath again. Would some one PLEASE help me out understanding
> >>> this
> >>
> >>> ???
> >>>
> >>> Jim Lamason
> >>> Middlesex, NJ
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
> >>> [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> >>
> >>> On Behalf Of Tom Shay
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:03 AM
> >>> To: gettysburg at gdg.org
> >>> Subject: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >>>
> >>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The front page of today's Harrrisburg newspaper has an article on
> >>> proposed
> >>
> >>> 200-acre indoor water park that would be larger than Hersheypark.
> >>>
> >>> The article is online at:
> >>> http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/adams/article262096.ece
> >>>
> >>> Tom Shay - Cressona, PA
> >>>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2007 11:07:30 -0400
> From: "Jim Lamason"
> Subject: RE: GDG- Preservation
> To: "'GDG'"
> Message-ID: <0JQX000C4RCYO8J5 at vms169133.mailsrvcs.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Jack,
>
> I was teasing. That is the one thing we should be thankful for Old Dan. His
> foresight to do that.
>
> It never occurred to me, till just now... Do you know how many acres his
> original proposal was for?
>
> Jim Lamason
> Middlesex, NJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> On Behalf Of jack
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 11:02 AM
> To: GDG
> Subject: Re: GDG- Preservation
>
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>
>
> No, Sickles actually produced one of the early park Plans. It encompassed
> most of the active field.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Lamason"
> To: "'GDG'"
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:29 AM
> Subject: GDG- Preservation
>
>
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> >
> > Jack,
> >
> > You had to bring up THAT name ! LOL! Here we go again ! ;-)
> > Jim Lamason
> > Middlesex, NJ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> > On Behalf Of jack
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:20 AM
> > To: GDG
> > Subject: Re: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> > I think what you are wanting is the sickles plan.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jack
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Lamason"
> > To: "'GDG'"
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 9:03 AM
> > Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >
> >
> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Margaret,
> >>
> >> I understand that. There has to be a way to help.. Its takes creative
> >> thinking...
> >>
> >> I wonder if we could setup well a trust fund. If we could gather
> >> donations
> >> just for this purpose. That when land comes available, the funds are
> >> there
> >> to snatch it up.
> >>
> >> Hmmmm.. I know CWPT has been doing a lot of this, but they can only go so
> >> far.
> >>
> >> Jim Lamason
> >> Middlesex, NJ
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
> >> [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> >> On Behalf Of Margaret D. Blough
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 12:24 AM
> >> To: GDG
> >> Subject: RE: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >>
> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> It pretty much boils down to money. Someone and/or some organization has
> >> to
> >> purchase land or, at the very least, an easement running with title to
> >> the
> >> property, in order to protect it. The NPS cannot acquire land outside of
> >> park boundaries. Zoning can help, but zoning laws can be changed, and
> >> this
> >> is still an area that is not terribly comfortable with zoning. Where the
> >> land is still owned by the heirs of the original owners, if the heirs are
> >> interested in historic preservation that can help keep the price down,
> >> but
> >> the fact is that, when an estate's principal asset is decidely non-liquid
> >> but taxes and other expenses still must be paid, owners often are not in
> >> a
> >> financial position to turn away would-be commercial buyers indefinitely.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Margaret
> >>
> >> -------------- Original message --------------
> >> From: "Jim Lamason"
> >>
> >>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Dear Tom,
> >>>
> >>> Ok a deep breath here.. I realize I am "preaching to the choir" but man
> >>> when, where or if ever is this going to stop?
> >>>
> >>> I don't understand this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> I am trying, TRYING to understand the thought process about this..
> >>>
> >>> Look I know the area needs jobs. Ok that's a given... But where does the
> >>> encroachment on this historic place, this hallowed ground stop?
> >>>
> >>> This is getting really scary. Especially after being down there three
> >> weeks
> >>> ago and walking the Herr Ridge road and Longstreets Countermarch.
> >>>
> >>> McMansions popping up like d*mn mushrooms!!
> >>>
> >>> Sighhhhhhhhh
> >>>
> >>> Ok deep breath again. Would some one PLEASE help me out understanding
> >>> this
> >>
> >>> ???
> >>>
> >>> Jim Lamason
> >>> Middlesex, NJ
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
> >>> [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> >>
> >>> On Behalf Of Tom Shay
> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2007 10:03 AM
> >>> To: gettysburg at gdg.org
> >>> Subject: GDG- Water Park proposed for Gettysburg
> >>>
> >>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The front page of today's Harrrisburg newspaper has an article on
> >>> proposed
> >>
> >>> 200-acre indoor water park that would be larger than Hersheypark.
> >>>
> >>> The article is online at:
> >>> http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/adams/article262096.ece
> >>>
> >>> Tom Shay - Cressona, PA
> >>>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 11:20:22 EDT
> From: Biggsk at aol.com
> Subject: GDG- Re: powder mills
> To: gettysburg at arthes.com
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>
> In a message dated 11/2/2007 7:49:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> gettysburg-request at arthes.com writes:
>
> Where in Virginia is Augusta?
>
>
> Ummm...the huge Augusta Powder Mill complex is in Augusta, Georgia. Hate
> to
> tell them Virginians that not everything important in the war was in
> Virginia.
>
> Greg Biggs
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 10:35:59 -0500
> From: "jack"
> Subject: Re: GDG- Re: powder mills
> To: "GDG"
> Message-ID: <000801c81e2f$3c4d6360$6701a8c0 at youra4783b7bb0>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> Actually, most of the important stuff in the war was in the West until
> 64-65. Then it was whatever Grant made happen.
>
> Regards
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 10:20 AM
> Subject: GDG- Re: powder mills
>
>
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 11/2/2007 7:49:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
> > gettysburg-request at arthes.com writes:
> >
> > Where in Virginia is Augusta?
> >
> >
> > Ummm...the huge Augusta Powder Mill complex is in Augusta, Georgia. Hate
>
> > to
> > tell them Virginians that not everything important in the war was in
> > Virginia.
> >
> > Greg Biggs
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 11
> Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2007 12:11:02 -0400
> From: "Jim Ferguson"
> Subject: GDG- Posting Statistics and Membership-October-07
> To: "GDG-2"
> Message-ID: <000301c81e34$23fec150$6501a8c0 at DJ16VXB1JIM>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>
>
> Posts Membership
>
> Disc Digest Total Contributors
>
> January 1115 262 426 688 115
>
> February 784 262 427 688 101
>
> March 435 263 432 695 103
>
> April 444 268 439 707 104
>
> May 512 274 441 715 104
>
> June 622 277 443 720 111
>
> July 512 280 448 728 108
>
> August 346 287 451 738 87
>
> September 386 294 456 750 89
>
> October 491 294 460 754 105
>
>
>
> Total 5647
>
>
>
> Top Ten Discussion Threads
>
>
>
> 1 Family to get credit for Civil War artifacts..32
>
> 2 Units history and what has caught my atten. .22
>
> 3 Lee's Circle..............................19
>
> 4 Hoods advance Day 2......................16
>
> 5 Last Full Measure Sheridan vs. Warren.......15
>
> 6 Accessing the Maps of Gbrg. Updated pages.11
>
> 7 Cannon Fire.............................10
>
> 8 Super Moon.............................8
>
> 9 Thumbing the vent.........................9
>
> 10 Vincent Inscription........................9
>
>
>
> Total........................151
>
>
>
> Top Ten Throwsters
>
>
>
> 1. Jim Lamason..........................44
>
> 2. Robert Lawrence......................26
>
> 3. Keith Mackenzie......................19
>
> 4. Tom Ryan............................19
>
> 5. Alan D. Brunelle.......................18
>
> 6. Jim Cameron..........................18
>
> 7. Jack Kelly............................17
>
> 8. Bruce Trinque........................16
>
> 9. Dennis Lawrence.......................16
>
> 10. Dave Shultz..........................13
>
>
>
> Total.......................206
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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