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[Nick KURTZ]

That's absolutely correct about the lieutenant general law.  And the practical reason is right on too.
--Nick
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  From: Tom Ryan<mailto:pennmardel at mchsi.com> 
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  Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 6:56 PM
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  Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:


  I think there were two important factors at play here.  One was federal law
  I believe limited promotions to major general.  I think it required special
  legislation to make Grant a lieutenant general when he was put in charge of
  the entire Union army.  The other is more practical in that Confederate
  corps were on avarage twice the size of Union corps, so it made good sense
  to have a higher ranking general in charge.  A Union corps had about
  10-12,000, while a Rebel corps in the ANV had 22-24,000.

  Tom

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  Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:


  I think its more a matter of what rank commanded what.  Confederate brigades
  were usually commanded by a brigadier general while Union brigades seem to
  have colonels commanding them almost as often as brigadier generals.  At the
  division level the Confederates almost always have a major general while the
  Union has brigadier generals.  At the corps level the Confederates break out
  the lieutenant general rank while the Union has major generals.  Armies are
  commanded by lieutenant generals for Confederates and the Union uses major
  generals.  Basically its just that for each step up the command structure
  the Confederates tend to make sure a different rank of general commands it,
  this starts at the brigade level and filters up.  The Union doesn't always
  have a brigadier commanding a brigade so that too tends to filter up.  And
  also the Confederates had full generals (Beauregard, Cooper, Lee, the two
  Johnstons, Bragg, Hood).
  --Nick





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    From: Smith, David<mailto:smith_david_g at bah.com<mailto:smith_david_g at bah.com>>
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    Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 4:38 PM
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    Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:


    I haven't posted in a while, so here's a question that has been
    bothering me.

    What is up with Civil War officer ranks, North and South?  Lee creates
    Lieutenant Generals for his corps commanders.  Richard McMurry, in Two
    Great Armies, says its hard to find a bio of anyone less than a
    lieutenant general in the western armies (there are a few).

    Meanwhile, at Gettysburg, Lee and his lieutenant generals are defeated
    by George Gordon Meade, a lowly (in comparison) major general.  Meade
    had commanded a corps for some time before Gettysburg, but in Lee's
    army, it seems unusual to command a corps at that rank.

    Why the difference between Confederate and Union ranks?

    David
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