GDG- Re: a grave question to be considered

[Margaret D. Blough]

Laurie,

One will never know how Floyd would have been treated postwar, since he died in 1863.  The same holds true of General David Twiggs who surrendered all US forces in Texas to secessionist Texas state troops under Ben McCulloch on February 18, 1861. Twiggs was cashiered from service in the US Army for "for treachery to the flag of his country."
on March 1, 1861 by James Buchanan, in one of  his last acts as president of the United States.  Twiggs was commissioned a brigadier general in the Confederate army in May 1861, but he retired from active duty shortly after because of ill health. Twiggs died on July 15, 1862.

Regards,

Margaret

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From: Laurence Schiller <lds307 at northwestern.edu> 

> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
> 
> 
> Hi Greg - I'm not a Constitutional expert - maybe Margaret B. can 
> weigh in on this one, but if I deliberately ship war materials to 
> people planning an insurrection, then that is treason - AND, I might 
> point out, they were indeed overthrowing Federal authority in the 
> states they intended to include in their new 'Confederacy'. This is 
> overthrow and violation of the rights of southern citizens who don't 
> want to be included in the insurrection. Sounds like 'high crimes and 
> misdemeanors' to me. 
> 
> Laurie Schiller 
> 
> On Jun 11, 2007, at 2:16 AM, Biggsk at aol.com wrote: 
> 
> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Laurie Schiller writes: 
> > 
> >>>> Ok - I wasn't going to get into this, but while Grant let 
> >>>> corrupt friends 
> > loot the treasury, Buchanan damaged the country by not doing 
> > anything while 
> > the country drifted to war. He let his southern cabinet officers 
> > ship weapons 
> > and supplies to the south and do a variety of other treasonous 
> > things.>>> 
> > 
> > 
> > Theft of Federal property at best. Treasonous? Not even close. 
> > Treason 
> > and secession are two completely different things - and a topic 
> > that a former 
> > constitutional law professor and I broached this past weekend at 
> > the CW 
> > conference in Decatur, IL who stating the same thing as I am 
> > here. It was not the 
> > South's aim to overthrow the US government - it was their aim to 
> > leave it, 
> > thus not committing treason. The proof in the pudding is that 
> > there were no 
> > trials for treason after the war - and Jeff Davis and Alec 
> > Stephens were both 
> > chomping at the bit for them to prove their point. 
> > 
> > They probably would have won - and the US government knew it! 
> > 
> > Greg Biggs 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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