GDG- The 49ers

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The 49ers are great when nothing is on  the line.    They weren't going anywhere

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Today's Topics:

1. The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in professional
football. (jack)
2. Re: RE: Wright's Brigade (Batrinque at aol.com)
3. Re: The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in
professionalfootball. (GARY W KURTZ)
4. RE: The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in
professionalfootball. (Clarence W. Hollowell, Jr.)
5. Re: The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team
inprofessionalfootball. (Clarence W. Hollowell, Jr.)
6. RE: The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in
professionalfootball. (keith mackenzie)
7. Re: The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in
professionalfootball. (Marc Ferguson)
8. Re: Winter Stomp (Marc Ferguson)
9. Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum! (DShultz180 at aol.com)
10. Re: Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum! (jack)
11. RE: Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum! (Robert Lawrence)
12. Re: Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum! (Richard M Kadas)
13. Re: Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum! (Jack Kelly)
14. RE: Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum! (Chuck May)
15. Winter Stomp (Tom Ryan)
16. Re: Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum! (James Cameron)
17. Re: The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team
inprofessionalfootball. (GARY W KURTZ)
18. Re: Winter Stomp (James Cameron)
19. Lincoln books (Tom Ryan)
20. Re: Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum! (James Cameron)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 19:12:54 -0600
From: "jack" 
Subject: GDG- The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in
professional football.
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:22:58 EST
From: Batrinque at aol.com
Subject: Re: GDG- RE: Wright's Brigade
To: gettysburg at arthes.com
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In a message dated 12/31/06 4:39:20 PM Pacific Standard Time, zfry at kent.edu 
writes:

> For me, the issue of the location of Wright’s contact with the Federal
> main line can be succinctly answered by a couple key facts. First, I
> will put my opinion on the line by stating that I believe we can
> conclude incontrovertibly that the 48th Georgia attacked the front of
> the 59th New York and 7th Michigan, with the 69th Pennsylvania also
> contributing greatly to the defense. This long-standing assertion is
> supported by a host of primary sources, not the least of which is the
> fact that Sgt. James Wiley of the 59th N.Y. captured the battle flag of
> the 48th Georgia in front of the stone wall. Presuming – as I humbly
> believe it is safe to do – that such a conventional analysis of these
> events is not perpetuating a myth, we can look to Wright’s own OR. 
> While this document has become infamous for its questionable allegations
> regarding the height of the attack, I believe we at least ought to
> believe the general’s description of his own brigade’s deployment. On
> p. 623 of part
> 2, Wright notes:
> 
> “In this advance, my brigade was formed in the following order: The
> Twenty-second Georgia Regiment on the right, the Third Georgia in the
> center, and the Forty-eighth Georgia on the left. The Second Georgia
> Battalion…was deployed in front of the whole brigade as skirmishers[.]”
> 
> This alignment is supported by the ORs of Col. Edward Walker, 3rd GA;
> Capt. B.C. McCurry, 22nd GA; Captain M.R. Hall, 48th GA; and Capt.
> Charles Moffett, 2nd GA Btn. With this array in mind, we see clearly
> that Wright’s brigade could only have struck at the point where the
> brave Georgians have commonly and historically been held to have done so.
> 

Good observation. Very good. And pointing out the difference between solid 
evidence and unsupported speculation.

Bruce Trinque
Amston, CT


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 18:25:36 -0700
From: "GARY W KURTZ" 
Subject: Re: GDG- The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in
professionalfootball.
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Booo! 
--Nick in Denver
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:28:58 -0500
From: "Clarence W. Hollowell, Jr." 
Subject: RE: GDG- The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in
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Outside the Kansas City Chiefs, San Francisco is my favorite team this New 
Year's Eve.
Rejoice , rejoice oh men of youth



Clarence Hollowell



"Those who come after us will fill up the canvas we begin."

Thomas Jefferson





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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:30:34 -0500
From: "Clarence W. Hollowell, Jr." 
Subject: Re: GDG- The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team
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Denver has a football team ? Who do they play next Sunday pray tell :)


Clarence Hollowell



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Thomas Jefferson





>From: "GARY W KURTZ" 
>Reply-To: GDG 
>To: "GDG" 
>Subject: Re: GDG- The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team 
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 17:35:37 -0800 (PST)
From: keith mackenzie 
Subject: RE: GDG- The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in
professionalfootball.
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Jay-Ee-Tee-eS! 
JETS! JETS! JETS!

K.
In NEW YAWK!

"Clarence W. Hollowell, Jr." wrote:
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Outside the Kansas City Chiefs, San Francisco is my favorite team this New 
Year's Eve.
Rejoice , rejoice oh men of youth



Clarence Hollowell



"Those who come after us will fill up the canvas we begin."

Thomas Jefferson





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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:42:55 -0500
From: "Marc Ferguson" 
Subject: Re: GDG- The San Francisco 49ers are the greatest team in
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Go Niners!

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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:44:40 -0500
From: "Marc Ferguson" 
Subject: Re: GDG- Winter Stomp
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Thanks, I forgot about the Spring Muster.

Marc

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> In a message dated 12/31/2006 1:15:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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> This loyal "lurker" would like to know if there is a Spring or Summer 
> Stomp?
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> The "Summer Stomp" is more properly known as the GDG Muster.
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:56:15 EST
From: DShultz180 at aol.com
Subject: GDG- Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum!
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> <>
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Hardly the situation. When Cushing [Woodruff and Arnold too] topped the ridge 
that morning he was met with Confederate arty fire which was kept up on and 
off until dusk (various rates). Unfortunately for Cushing, as it were, the 
enemy used the then not so famous coppice of trees, off his immediate left 
(front), to gain range. Fortunately for Cushing, however, as on July 3rd, Confederate 
ordnance was it's usual inferior product. They had him zeroed but failed to 
silence him. Again as July 3rd Hancock saw to it that the batteries attached to 
his corps July 2nd supported his regiments then engaged to the front. Cushing 
engaged on and off all day July 2nd firing over 300 rounds of various 
ammunitions. Nothing to, ho-hum, yawn about.

What's unique about Cushing when Wright's line struck west of the trees is 
the fact Lieutenant George Dwight, 2nd Corps Ordnance Officer, was with him [the 
battery] at that time. Dwight wrote a lengthy note to Hunt (on request) about 
what occurred that day at that time mentioning only Brown's misfortunes. 
Other then suggesting he sent two of Cushings caissons to Gillette's trains before 
the firing stopped not one word is mentioned of either Cushing and or 
Arnold's engagements [to a degree]. To him it was just another ... ho-hum engagement 
as it were. I would imagine had either of those batteries been overrun Dwight 
might have made note of it.

Best ... yawn,

Dave





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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 03:04:34 -0600
From: "jack" 
Subject: Re: GDG- Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum!
To: "GDG" 
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Greetings,

On July 3rd, Cushing was shot. He died 1 1/2 hours later.

I see nothing ortunate about that.
He saw little action on July 2nd.

I would state that to imply anything else is despicable, but that would 
impugn the comity of the group.

Cushing fired a few rounds on day two. Wrignt was South, way south, of 
Cushing that day. Period.

Regards,

Jack



If chuck implied anythi
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> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
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> Hardly the situation. When Cushing [Woodruff and Arnold too] topped the 
> ridge
> that morning he was met with Confederate arty fire which was kept up on 
> and
> off until dusk (various rates). Unfortunately for Cushing, as it were, the
> enemy used the then not so famous coppice of trees, off his immediate left
> (front), to gain range. Fortunately for Cushing, however, as on July 3rd, 
> Confederate
> ordnance was it's usual inferior product. They had him zeroed but failed 
> to
> silence him. Again as July 3rd Hancock saw to it that the batteries 
> attached to
> his corps July 2nd supported his regiments then engaged to the front. 
> Cushing
> engaged on and off all day July 2nd firing over 300 rounds of various
> ammunitions. Nothing to, ho-hum, yawn about.
>
> What's unique about Cushing when Wright's line struck west of the trees is
> the fact Lieutenant George Dwight, 2nd Corps Ordnance Officer, was with 
> him [the
> battery] at that time. Dwight wrote a lengthy note to Hunt (on request) 
> about
> what occurred that day at that time mentioning only Brown's misfortunes.
> Other then suggesting he sent two of Cushings caissons to Gillette's 
> trains before
> the firing stopped not one word is mentioned of either Cushing and or
> Arnold's engagements [to a degree]. To him it was just another ... ho-hum 
> engagement
> as it were. I would imagine had either of those batteries been overrun 
> Dwight
> might have made note of it.
>
> Best ... yawn,
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2007 07:56:14 -0500
From: "Robert Lawrence" 
Subject: RE: GDG- Re:Cushing spent the day yawning ...Ho-Hum!
To: "GDG" 
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I don't know what ortunate is but I do know that despicable is uncalled
for and way out line. 

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