GDG- Swords into plowshares....
Tim Ayres
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1. Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg Battlefield
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3. RE: Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield (Bob Huddleston)
4. Happy Holidays (George F)
5. Re: Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
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7. Re: Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield (Mike Murphy)
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Battlefield (mdblough1 at comcast.net)
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10. Re: Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield (Batrinque at aol.com)
11. Early Christmas Present! (Linda J. Guy)
12. Re: Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield (Dennis Lawrence)
13. 2007 - Greatest Hits - Dave and Dave (Dennis Lawrence)
14. Gdg Greatest Hits = Lil' story 'bout Jack and Jenny
(Dennis Lawrence)
15. 2007 Greatest hits - What's the dog's name? (Dennis Lawrence)
16. Greatest Hits 2007 - Message for Jenny (Dennis Lawrence)
17. 2007 Greatest Hits - Dean (Dennis Lawrence)
18. Re: Early Christmas Present! (JIM COOKE)
19. Re: Early Christmas Present! (Linda J. Guy)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:14:37 -0500
From: "Robert Lawrence"
Subject: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield
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http://www.centredaily.com/news/state/story/297467.html
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:07:13 -0500 (EST)
From: JIM COOKE
Subject: Re: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield
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Related story from the Gettysburg Times:
http://www.gettysburgtimes.com/news/front1.shtml
It's very distressing that two organizations with the same objectives cannot come to agreement on these issues.
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From: Robert Lawrence
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Sent: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 14:14:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg Battlefield
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:46:20 -0700
From: "Bob Huddleston"
Subject: RE: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield
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The Guides seem to have forgotten that they have a privileged position: they
are a creature of the United States government. They have a monopoly and if
I want to set up shop and offer tours -- free or for hire -- I cannot do it
and could be arrested -- on the complaint of the guides.
If they want their monopoly, with it comes supervision and rules on what
*they* can do or not do.
Take care,
Bob
Judy and Bob Huddleston
10643 Sperry Street
Northglenn, CO 80234-3612
huddleston.r at comcast.net
"The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane."
---Mark Twain, 1907
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On Behalf Of Robert Lawrence
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:15 PM
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Subject: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg Battlefield
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:07:20 -0800 (PST)
From: George F
Subject: GDG- Happy Holidays
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Happy Holidays to all members of the Gettysburg
Discussion Group.
I hope Santa brings each of you the Civil War
book on your Christmas list (if you have not
already bought it for yourself, as I did!).
Enjoy the holiday with family and friends. Take
a minute to reflect on the holidays for our
troops - both past and present.
Look forward to seeing some of you on Friday in
Gettysburg.
Cheers,
George F. Franks, III
Daniel Donnelly House (1830)
Williamsport, Maryland
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 01:10:18 +0000
From: manassas1 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield
To: GDG , "GDG"
Cc: Robert Lawrence
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Esteemed Members......
With everything, comes change. It's not all bad. If we didn't have computers and still wrote with quill pens, I never would have met all you nice people out there. Hopefully, they'll be a meeting of the minds before long.
Happy Holidays, everyone.
Eileen Murphy
Bristow, VA
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Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 01:10:18 +0000
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Subject: Re: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield
To: GDG , "GDG"
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Esteemed Members......
With everything, comes change. It's not all bad. If we didn't have computers and still wrote with quill pens, I never would have met all you nice people out there. Hopefully, they'll be a meeting of the minds before long.
Happy Holidays, everyone.
Eileen Murphy
Bristow, VA
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:30:17 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Murphy
Subject: Re: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield
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Interesting. I noticed that the article had a paucity of rationale in support of the new rules, other than ""We're trying to bring this up to industry standards," said Katie Lawhon, a park spokeswoman. "Industry standards are advanced payments and advanced reservations." What was the original impetus for these rule changes? Just curious.
Mike Murphy
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 01:30:49 +0000
From: mdblough1 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield
To: "GDG"
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It does appear that someone should give the ALBG a copy of the portion of the Code of Federal Regulations that covers licensed (that word is critical) battlefield guides.
Regards,
Margaret
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From: "Bob Huddleston"
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 16:46:20
To:"'GDG'"
Subject: RE: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg Battlefield
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
The Guides seem to have forgotten that they have a privileged position: they
are a creature of the United States government. They have a monopoly and if
I want to set up shop and offer tours -- free or for hire -- I cannot do it
and could be arrested -- on the complaint of the guides.
If they want their monopoly, with it comes supervision and rules on what
*they* can do or not do.
Take care,
Bob
Judy and Bob Huddleston
10643 Sperry Street
Northglenn, CO 80234-3612
huddleston.r at comcast.net
"The rule is perfect: in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane."
---Mark Twain, 1907
-----Original Message-----
From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
On Behalf Of Robert Lawrence
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:15 PM
To: GDG
Subject: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg Battlefield
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 17:38:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Murphy
Subject: Re: GDG- Happy Holidays
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Wonderful sentiments. I already have a superb ACW themed gift that I just received. A friend of mine cleared a VERY old & dead oak tree off her property outside of Springfield MO, right next to the Wilson's Creek battlfield. This tree had a very big and very old knot in it. When she and her husbanc were cutting the tree up, they found a canister shot ball (little bit bigger than a golf ball) lodged in the knot. She promptly boxed it up and sent it to me. Was the best gift I have gotten in years! :)
At any rate, I look forward to seeing you and the others this coming Friday. I'll be coming from Kansas City, leaving the night of 26 Dec, and hope to get in late the night of 27 Dec.
Mike Murphy
George F wrote:
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
Happy Holidays to all members of the Gettysburg
Discussion Group.
I hope Santa brings each of you the Civil War
book on your Christmas list (if you have not
already bought it for yourself, as I did!).
Enjoy the holiday with family and friends. Take
a minute to reflect on the holidays for our
troops - both past and present.
Look forward to seeing some of you on Friday in
Gettysburg.
Cheers,
George F. Franks, III
Daniel Donnelly House (1830)
Williamsport, Maryland
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:39:19 EST
From: Batrinque at aol.com
Subject: Re: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield
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In a message dated 12/24/2007 8:13:08 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
manassas1 at comcast.net writes:
With everything, comes change. It's not all bad. If we didn't have
computers and still wrote with quill pens, I never would have met all you nice
people out there. Hopefully, they'll be a meeting of the minds before long.
Happy Holidays, everyone.
Does this mean I can hope for a 2-megaherz quill pen under the tree?
Bruce Trinque
Amston, CT
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:01:33 -0500
From: "Linda J. Guy"
Subject: GDG- Early Christmas Present!
To: Gettysburg List
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Guess what I got!! "Maps of Gettysburg!" Woo Hoo!
Didn't I read there were updates to some maps? Where can I find them?
Merry Christmas!
Linda
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:21:22 -0700
From: Dennis Lawrence
Subject: Re: GDG- Tour guide group to fight new rules at Gettysburg
Battlefield
To: GDG
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> I never would have met all you nice people out there.
Merry Christmas, Eileen
A founding member of the Gdg and a "Prodigy
Woman" http://www.gdg.org/Muster/muster94.html
Take Care
Dennis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Ta-pocketa-pocketa-pocketa ...
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:28:00 -0700
From: Dennis Lawrence
Subject: GDG- 2007 - Greatest Hits - Dave and Dave
To: gettysburg at gdg.org
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkrMizCoWJI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Sometimes the light's all shining on me
Other times I can barely see
Lately it occurs to me
What a long strange trip it's been
Truckin – The Dead
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:31:00 -0700
From: Dennis Lawrence
Subject: GDG- Gdg Greatest Hits = Lil' story 'bout Jack and Jenny
To: gettysburg at gdg.org
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti2PcQR-SdU
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
On stage I make love to twenty five thousand people; and then I go home alone.
Janis Joplin
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:29:00 -0700
From: Dennis Lawrence
Subject: GDG- 2007 Greatest hits - What's the dog's name?
To: gettysburg at gdg.org
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_PH1eHKiO4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier! Down goes Frazier!
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:33:00 -0700
From: Dennis Lawrence
Subject: GDG- Greatest Hits 2007 - Message for Jenny
To: gettysburg at gdg.org
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5jaJyJKY3s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
"I don't mind if you don't like my manners. I don't like them myself.
They're pretty bad. I grieve over them on long winter evenings." Humphrey
Bogart in "The Big Sleep
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 20:26:00 -0700
From: Dennis Lawrence
Subject: GDG- 2007 Greatest Hits - Dean
To: gettysburg at gdg.org
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r07sJslaXrw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Boy: Girl:
It was long ago and it was far
away It never felt so good
And it was so much better than it is
today It never felt so right
And we were glowing like
metal on the edge of a knife
Meat Loaf - Paradise by the Dashboard Lights
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 10:06:47 -0500 (EST)
From: JIM COOKE
Subject: Re: GDG- Early Christmas Present!
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Linda, try this link:
http://savasbeatie.com/books/TMOG_excerpt.htm#1
there is a dropdown box to select the updated maps ans a text page.
Merry Christmas.
----- Original Message -----
From: Linda J. Guy
To: Gettysburg List
Sent: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 21:01:33 -0500 (EST)
Subject: GDG- Early Christmas Present!
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Guess what I got!! "Maps of Gettysburg!" Woo Hoo!
Didn't I read there were updates to some maps? Where can I find them?
Merry Christmas!
Linda
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