GDG- Secret sealed Lincoln slave plan....
Tim Ayres
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Sat Dec 15 15:22:14 CST 2007
Lincoln's secret plan on the fate of freed slaves was sealed for 50 years to be sealed again for 50 more. Did the essence of his plans ever become disclosed?
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Harvest of Death Mystery (James Cameron)
2. Re: ACW Dog Tags (James Cameron)
3. Re: Harvest of Death Mystery (keith mackenzie)
4. Re: First Minnesota (wolfduke38 at comcast.net)
5. Re: ACW Dog Tags (wolfduke38 at comcast.net)
6. RE: ACW Dog Tags (Tom Ryan)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:21:01 -0500
From: James Cameron
Subject: Re: GDG- Harvest of Death Mystery
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<< So there's nothing really contentious about either location? Just an
admittedly grisly curiosity of the field? I don't have Journey In Time
(D'OH!) an over site I will rectify directly,but in Early Photography,
Frassanito seems pretty convinced of The Rose Farm area and gives some
fairly balanced straightforward reasoning, and since he is the shogun of the
photographic evidence of GB, and since I still owe him a drink over a bet
concerning the '72 gas crisis, I'm going to step over to that side of the
line. However, as a DISCERNING DILETTANTE, I'm looking fore ward to my time
spent with the Master Of Opposing Viewpoints, Chaplain Chuck as he
respectfully demonstrates why he doesn't think so. >>
Well, there's been a lot of debate about it over the years, including
numerous proposed locations, so I'm not sure I'd say it can't get
contentious. At heart, though, it's really just an exercise in photo
interpretation.
Jim Cameron
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 17:23:16 -0500
From: James Cameron
Subject: Re: GDG- ACW Dog Tags
To: GDG
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<< Does anyone know what proportion of Union troops wore privately purchased
dog tags or what proportion of Union units bought them? >>
I don't know a whole lot about them, aside from the fact they were generally
(or always) privately purchased, and seem to have been at least reasonably
common. How many men had them, I'm not sure anybody knows.
Jim Cameron
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:55:57 -0800 (PST)
From: keith mackenzie
Subject: Re: GDG- Harvest of Death Mystery
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Jim:
Neat!
Thanks,
K.
James Cameron wrote: Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
<< So there's nothing really contentious about either location? Just an
admittedly grisly curiosity of the field? I don't have Journey In Time
(D'OH!) an over site I will rectify directly,but in Early Photography,
Frassanito seems pretty convinced of The Rose Farm area and gives some
fairly balanced straightforward reasoning, and since he is the shogun of the
photographic evidence of GB, and since I still owe him a drink over a bet
concerning the '72 gas crisis, I'm going to step over to that side of the
line. However, as a DISCERNING DILETTANTE, I'm looking fore ward to my time
spent with the Master Of Opposing Viewpoints, Chaplain Chuck as he
respectfully demonstrates why he doesn't think so. >>
Well, there's been a lot of debate about it over the years, including
numerous proposed locations, so I'm not sure I'd say it can't get
contentious. At heart, though, it's really just an exercise in photo
interpretation.
Jim Cameron
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:02:24 +0000
From: wolfduke38 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: GDG- First Minnesota
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As far as %'s go I would think it's fair to say that most regiments if not all at Gettysburg or any other battle for that matter gave some sort of supreme sacrifice.( Little Billy may be the one exception at Gettysburg ) They each deserve the utmost respect in this regard. Far too many men and women gave the final sacrifice in any one of these Companies,Regiments, Brigades, Division's and Corps. To try and measure the actions or bravery of a certain group based on %, I'm just not buying it. Consider Harpers Ferry, those guys didn't turn out to be cowards after all did they?
Just a personal feeling which is not intended to offend or ridicule anyone on these boards. I know that some did not stand up as well as others and should'nt be held in the same regard. Other then that enjoy your day
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:08:02 +0000
From: wolfduke38 at comcast.net
Subject: Re: GDG- ACW Dog Tags
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There will be something coming out on this topic. I was on an Antietam tour this past year and a gentlemen on the tour had a couple of dog tags with him. One was very interesting because it was found at Antietam and the man is buried in the cemetary there. He wrote about this topic and hopefully it will be something we can use to learn more about these suttler tags.
Hope that is helpful, Ed
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 09:07:50 -0500
From: "Tom Ryan"
Subject: RE: GDG- ACW Dog Tags
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<tour this past year and a gentlemen on the tour had a couple of dog tags
with him. One was very interesting because it was found at Antietam and the
man is buried in the cemetary there. He wrote about this topic and
hopefully it will be something we can use to learn more about these suttler
tags.>>
For those who subscribe to Gettysburg Magazine, Joe Stahl has written a
number of articles on individual dog tags. He is a collector, and
researches about the owner of these tags. He has an article in Issue 35,
and it says that he has written six altogether. Not sure whether he has
done an investigation of the extent of use of dog tags during the war.
Tom Ryan
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