GDG- Triangular Field

jack jlawrence at kc.rr.com
Sun Dec 2 20:50:19 CST 2007 

Terry (and hi Margaret)

At Normandy, Mary had to leave the National Cemetary (it is U.S soil-The 
Cemetary manager has NC plates on his car), Mary felt a "strong presence".

Our son had srved in the first Gulf War so all those crosses of thing really 
affects her.

The same thing happened the Arizona memorial-I think it was the father/son 
thing.

I took John (The Gulf War Vet) to the burg two years ago and he, though he 
didn't say mucxh but thanks, was moved.

I took my two 15 year old Grandsons to Arlington this past spring. The 
changing of the gaurd was cool to them. On the way up though, we went past a 
Military funeral down by the new section.
They didn't know what they were seeing until the shots went off. they went 
numb-their older cousin is in the Marines and it was on their mind the rest 
of the tip.

When I go up there this month, I expect some of the same feelings-they 
always come.

T me, those are the Ghosts of Gettysburg and all the other fields of honer. 
Not those trash talk stories.

I realize that Mr. Nesbitt has a right to make these things up, but it 
denigrates and blurs the real stories.

If you want to see a Ghost at Gettysburg, read the "how to" book "The 
Whispering Ghost Mystery" then set it up at the next Muster at the hot dog 
roast. We'll get a crowd for sure.

Regards,

Jack
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry" <terrybrasko at mindspring.com>
To: "'GDG'" <gettysburg at arthes.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: GDG- Triangular Field


> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>
>
> I agree, Margaret!  Long before I knew the significance of that little 
> plot
> of land, I went there with my now husband.  He was taking on a tour of the
> battlefield0.  We stopped at dusk on a June day in 2004.  I could not stay
> long for some reason as a profound sadness came over me.  No reason for 
> it,
> we were happily touring the battlefield.  I couldn't stay there.
>
> Terry Brasko
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
> On Behalf Of Margaret D. Blough
> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 11:06 AM
> To: GDG
> Subject: Re: GDG- Triangular Field
>
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>
>
> To me, what you experienced and the whole "ghost story" industry are two
> different things.  I don't believe in ghosts, in the ghost industry sense.
> I really believe that men who gave their lives for their country believed
> in, deserved, and received a far better eternal reward than being shills 
> to
> attract tourists.  On the other hand, I believe in what you experienced 
> and
> that it is best explained in the moving speech that Joshua Lawrence
> Chamberlain gave at the dedication of the 20th Maine monument at 
> Gettysburg
> on October 3, 1889:
>
>>>In great deeds something abides. On great fields something stays. Forms
> change and pass; bodies disappear, but spirits linger, to consecrate 
> ground
> for the vision-place of souls. And reverent men and women from afar, and
> generations that know us not and that we know not of, heart-drawn to see
> where and by whom great things were suffered and done for them, shall come
> to this deathless field to ponder and dream; And lo! the shadow of a 
> mighty
> presence shall wrap them in its bosom, and the power of the vision pass 
> into
> their souls.<<
>
> Regards,
>
> Margaret
>
>
> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Linda J. Guy" <lindajguy at embarqmail.com>
>
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>
>>
>> But Nesbitt comes out with more books, I think there are four now. Is he
>> getting the stories the guides are making up and then copyrighting them?
>> That wouldn't be fair.
>>
>> On another note, I am sensitive to these things, and I had such a
>> feeling of depression in the cemetery at the 135th re-enactment that I
>> had to leave it. There was so much going on there at the time I really
>> wanted to stay and see it all, but couldn't. The rest of Gettysburg was
>> fine with me. Weird!
>>
>> Bob Vary wrote:
>> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> >
>> >
>> > As of 2002 tour guides were still being told not to use any stories 
>> > that
>
>> > appeared in Nesbitt's books. The feeling, at that time at least, was
> that
>> > as long as Nesbitt is allowed to copyright his printed presentations 
>> > the
>
>> > tours do not want their guides using those stories out of fear of
>> > litigation. It's better to make up stories for the tours and avoid
> having
>> > issues with publishers of printed material.
>> >
>> > Bob
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- 
>> > From: gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com
> [mailto:gettysburg-bounces at arthes.com]
>> > On Behalf Of Margaret D. Blough
>> > Sent: Friday, November 30, 2007 7:57 PM
>> > To: GDG
>> > Subject: Re: GDG- Triangular Field
>> >
>> > Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>> One reason for that is that all of the stories in the various Ghosts
> of
>> >>>
>> > Gettysburg books have been copyrighted and cannot legally be used by 
>> > the
>
>> > ghost tours without permission.<<
>> > Actually, that's not correct. It probably was the understanding, 
>> > though,
> at
>> > the time that your son gave tours, but it hasn't been the case since
> 2001.
>> > In 2000, Mark Nesbitt sued the owners of the Farnsworth House ghost
> tours
>> > for copyright infringement. In 2001, Judge Sylvia Rambo ruled that with
> one
>> > exception (a story in which Nesbitt admitted an error was made in the
>> > printed version), the stories were in the public domain and, thus, 
>> > their
>
>> > content could not be copyrighted. She ruled that Nesbitt could validly
>> > copyright his printed presentation of the stories, though.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Margaret
>> >
>> >
>> > -------------- Original message -------------- 
>> > From: gburg74 at comcast.net
>> >
>> >
>> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> My son used to give ghost tours in Gettysburg. He can tell you for a
> fact
>> >>
>> > that
>> >
>> >> many, if not most, of the ghost stories have been made up in recent
> years.
>> >>
>> > One
>> >
>> >> professor at the college has even admitted making up one of the more
>> >>
>> > famous of
>> >
>> >> them. Guides are also encouraged to make things up. One reason for 
>> >> that
> is
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >> that all of the stories in the various Ghosts of Gettysburg books have
>> >>
>> > been
>> >
>> >> copyrighted and cannot legally be used by the ghost tours without
>> >>
>> > permission.
>> >
>> >> On the other hand, I was seriously spooked one evening at dusk in the
>> >>
>> > Triagular
>> >
>> >> Field when I swore I heard footsteps right in back of me as if walking
>> >>
>> > through
>> >
>> >> the high weeds. But nothing was there. Probably the wind, or deer in
> the
>> >> woods, but it sure sent a bit of a shiver down my spine.
>> >>
>> >> Back to lurking with the other ghosts.
>> >>
>> >> Bob
>> >>
>> >>
>> > ysburg/
>> >
>> >
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