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Laurence D. Schiller
lds307 at northwestern.edu
Fri Sep 15 20:19:24 CDT 2006
Thanks, Margaret - that clarifies it even more!
Laurie
>Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>
>
>Even then the Constitution does not use the "s" word. Article 1,
>Section 9 of the Constitution actually says:
>
>>>The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States
>>>now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited
>>>by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and
>>>eight, but a Tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not
>>>exceeding ten dollars for each Person.<<
>
>Article 1, Section 2 (the infamous 3/5 compromise) states:
>
>>>Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the
>>>several States which may be included within this Union, according
>>>to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding
>>>to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to
>>>Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed,
>>>three fifths of all other Persons. <<
>
>The "fugitive slave clause" in Article IV, Section 2, states:
>
>>>No Person held to Service or Labour in one State, under the Laws
>>>thereof, escaping into another, shall, in Consequence of any Law
>>>or Regulation therein, be discharged from such Service or Labour,
>>>but shall be delivered up on Claim of the Party to whom such
>>>Service or Labour may be due.<<
>
>The one and only time the word slavery appears in the Constitution
>is in the 13th Amendment, which abolished the Peculiar Institution.
>
>Regards,
>
>Margaret
>-------------- Original message --------------
>From: "Laurence D. Schiller" <lds307 at northwestern.edu>
>
>> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>>
>>
>> It is little known (outside of this group of course), that slavery is
>> not actually mentioned in the Constitution except as regards the time
>> when the slave trade might be prohibited.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Laurie Schiller
>>
>>
>> >Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> >
>> >
>> >Especially, I assume, when someone claims that slavery was generally
>> >accepted throughout the original states and the Union at the birth
>> >of the Constitution and until decades later when those nasty
>> >abolitionists persuaded the Northern states to breach the agreement.
>> >One of my favorites is Madison saying, during the debates on
>> >Saturday, August 25, 1787, "Mr. MADISON thought it wrong to admit in
>> >the Constitution the idea that there could be property in men."
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >Margaret
>> >
>> >-------------- Original message --------------
>> >From: "Laurence D. Schiller"
>> >
>> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Yes, and very handy when talking to Southern re-enactors...
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Laurie
>> >>
>> >> >Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Addictive, isn't it?
>> >> >
>> >> >Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >Margaret
>> >> >
>> >> >-------------- Original message --------------
>> >> >From: "Laurence D. Schiller"
>> >> >
>> >> >> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks Margaret - you are the one who got me interested in this stuff.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Laurie Schiller
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >If you haven't already read it, I'd recommend The Bicentennial
> > >> >> >edition of "Notes of Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787
>> >> >> >Reported by James Madison" (Introduction by Adrienne Koch and
>> >> >> >republished as a paperback by W.W. Norton & Company 1987). It's
>> >> >> >fascinating reading.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Regards,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Margaret
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
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>> >> Maitre d'Armes William Bradshaw, Co. F 2nd WI
>> >> Head Fencing Coach George Hammitt, Co. H 104th Ill
>> >> Department of History
>> >> Northwestern University
>> >> Commissioner, Midwest Fencing Conference
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>> >> Vice-Chair USFA Illinois Division
>> >> Lds307 at northwestern.edu
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>> Dr. Laurence Dana Schiller Civil War First Person Impressions
>> Maitre d'Armes William Bradshaw, Co. F 2nd WI
>> Head Fencing Coach George Hammitt, Co. H 104th Ill
>> Department of History
>> Northwestern University
>> Commissioner, Midwest Fencing Conference
>> Midwest VP, US Fencing Coaches' Association
>> Vice-Chair USFA Illinois Division
>> Lds307 at northwestern.edu
>> 847-491-4654
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>> Official Sports site: http://nusports.ocsn.com/
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Dr. Laurence Dana Schiller Civil War First Person Impressions
Maitre d'Armes William Bradshaw, Co. F 2nd WI
Head Fencing Coach George Hammitt, Co. H 104th Ill
Department of History
Northwestern University
Commissioner, Midwest Fencing Conference
Midwest VP, US Fencing Coaches' Association
Vice-Chair USFA Illinois Division
Lds307 at northwestern.edu
847-491-4654
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