GDG- Wrights Brigade.
keith mackenzie
bluzdad at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 5 19:58:39 CST 2006
The actual title is "Gettysburg:Memory, Market and an American Shrine." Let me know what you think.
K.
mfitz54 at aol.com wrote:
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
I will check that out. Sounds interesting.
Mike
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From: bluzdad at yahoo.com
To: gettysburg at arthes.com
Sent: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: GDG- Wrights Brigade.
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
I've read these "Honored Dead", You should get Jim Weeks' book, "Memory, Market
and an American Shrine":
"By the end of the 1870s, an ineffable scene of human wreckage, described with
adjectives such as revolting, sad and ghastly, had been turned into a pleasant
site for genteel touring. Yet while masking wars reality, sublime scenery helped
transform the carnage into an instrument of God's holy purpose for a destined
nation. At the same time, as evidenced in Bachelder's projects, McConaughy's
memorial landscape, and the springs hotel, ignoring sectional bitterness to
secure the widest market for Gettysburg aided reconciliation. And the fact that
Gettysburg had liesurly uses meant it would not be confined to the fusty pages
of history, but could exist as an organic idea. As a source of pleasure and
commemoration, Gettysburg's memory would be transformed again and again."
And there's a handfull of GDG quotes in the epiloque.
K.
mfitz54 at aol.com wrote:
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
First one is on me!!
I expressed my surprise to Mr. Bearss concerning Wright considering all the
hoopla
over Pickett's charge and the High Water mark and the "copse of trees".
He told me that Wright had indeed reached that position, but could not hold it
long and had to pull back. The Confederates really gave the Union quite a battle
on Day 2 and it was all over the place. Wright allegedly stated, but I'm not
sure to who, on Day 3
that he had reached the position across the Emmittsburg Road and was not
confident that it could be taken and held.
On another note, Mr. Bearss is more impressed with the Union defense on Culp's
Hill and downplayed the actions of the 20th Maine. He felt Chamberlain lived
longer and was a better writer and speaker than Candy, Kane or Greene.
Thomas Dejardins has a great book, "Those Honored Dead" that goes into the whole
mythology of the "Highwater Mark" and how it seemed to be created by John
Bachelder as a way to draw tourists. Yes, it was being commercialized as early
as the 1880's.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: bluzdad at yahoo.com
To: gettysburg at arthes.com
Sent: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 5:31 PM
Subject: Re: GDG- Wrights Brigade.
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
Hmm. Wish I could have been there. Didn't think much about this bit until the
last week or so when we started considering it for the Stomp. I'm kind of
getting the feeling that maybe they didn't get that far. Farther than anyone
else, maybe. Real close, sure. Bearss saying they got there sort of changes the
equation.
If this battle was any less confusing, it wouldn't be any fun at all.
Thanks Mike. Maybe we can have a beer sometime.
K.
mfitz54 at aol.com wrote:
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
Yes he did.
-----Original Message-----
From: bluzdad at yahoo.com
To: gettysburg at arthes.com
Sent: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: GDG- Wrights Brigade.
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
Bearss said that, huh?
mfitz54 at aol.com wrote: Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
I had been on a tour of Day 2 at Gettysburg conducted by noted Civil War
historian Ed Bearss. He brought us up to and just below "the copse of trees" and
stated that Wright's advance ended at that point and could not be held due to
lack of support. I was amazed that they had proceeded that far.
Mike Fitzpatrick
-----Original Message-----
From: bluzdad at yahoo.com
To: gettysburg at arthes.com
Sent: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 10:35 AM
Subject: GDG- Wrights Brigade.
Esteemed GDG Member Contributes:
While investigating this Wright's advance thing, I note that Coddington say's
"Wright's story of the battle on July Second should be included in the better
Civil War romances."
While Pfanz say's "Wright's Brigade had occupied a segment of the ridge crest
and pierced the...line at the...center"
Woodward: "...;but in a small way, at least, they had cut the Army of the
Potomac in two..."
Bowden and Ward: " ..the 22nd Georgia...moved...into the gap south of the 7
Michigan. their steps had carried them to the crest of Cemetery Hill."
Tucker: "While Wrights lodgement is often called a penetration...that was not
precisely the case, because Webb's Brigade...was largely behind ...the crest and
had to be reckoned with before Wright could claim an actual piercing of the
Federal Army."
Sears: I don't have that book available, but I seem to recall that he
describes Wright has haveing reached "what has become recognized as the High
Water mark..."
So I guess what I'm wondering is, besides getting further than anyone else
that day, Did Wright's Brigade get as far as he said they did? did he really see
the Baltimore Pike? Coddington doesn't seem to think there's enough
corraborating statements to
back up the claim, while all the other books I have seem to accept it as a
given. And my memory of Sears, sketchy as it is, seems to suggest that Wrights
Brigade made it to the copse of trees that would be the AoV's target on the next
day.
Was Lee aware of Wrights claims by the end of day two? Did they have any
impact on his planning for day three?
And, While I'm raving, it seems to me the only brigade to have a chance of
breaking through north of the copse would have been Posey and/or Mahone. Could
Wrights Brigade have stretched out far enough to cover that terrain?
K.
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