GDG- Lee invades

[Margaret D. Blough]

>>Or his take on Longstreet and Lee on 
day three,  that Lee wasn't intimidated by the cemetery Ridge line, his 
engineers eye showing him the weak points, while Longstreet whose experience was 
what, as a quartemaster? was scared to within a
 hairs breadth of mutiny.<<

While Longstreet was granted a transfer into the adjutant general's office as a paymaster, with a promotion to major, in July 1858, a move he made in order to support his growing family.  Prior to that, he was a combat veteran of the Mexican War (Palo Alto, Resaca de la Palma, Monterrey, among other battles; wounded in action at the Battle of Chapultepec; a permanent promotion to first lieutenant and several brevet promotions for "gallant and meritorious conduct" culminating in one to major).  He spent most of the period between the Battle of Chapultepec and his transfer to the paymaster's position on frontier duty.  By the time of the Battle of Gettysburg, he been a wing, and, later corps commander, at the battles of Second Manassas, Antietam, and Fredericksburg.  He later commanded extraordinary attacks at the battles of Chickamauga and the Wilderness.  Longstreet certainly had serious professional reservations about the wisdom of Lee's plans, but, to attribute them, right or wro
ng, to cowardice, is unsupported by evidence.

Margaret Blough


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From: keith mackenzie <bluzdad at yahoo.com> 

> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
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> OK, still, what if he'd accepted? would he have ended up with the top Job? would 
> it have been Longstreet or even Jackson who marched the ANV into Pa? 
> An interesting side effect of reading coddington, in my case at least, is that 
> I feel like I understand EVERYTHING about the battle. and the FIRST thing I 
> understand is that everything about Gettysburg is open for debate. For instance, 
> I think that Howard probably had his best day as a Civil War General on july 
> first, and yet after reading Coddington, it appears to me that he became stuck 
> in (for lack of a better phrase), a management loop. No matter what he did, he 
> still ended up trying to hold McPhearsons ridge, because those were the last 
> "orders" he recieved from his immediate superior. and he couldn't get the next 
> guy in line to show up to take command! ( the same thing happend to me last 
> thursday. Knowing all this didn't help.) Or his take on Longstreet and Lee on 
> day three, that Lee wasn't intimidated by the cemetery Ridge line, his 
> engineers eye showing him the weak points, while Longstreet whose experience was 
> what, as a quartemaster? was scared to within a 
> hairs breadth of mutiny. 
> I should probably tone down the drama, but I'm trying to come to grips with 
> something and I'm not sure I'm expressing it. Eric said in an earlier post that 
> from where he sits, Meade just out generaled Lee. Truthfully, I'd rather go two 
> falls out of three in the ring with Eric than go toe to toe in a debate on any 
> of this stuff, but up here, in the cheap seats, it seems that Meade got better 
> service from more of his subordinates than Lee did, that Lee was badly served by 
> the guy's who worked for him and that the ANV was badly served by all of them. I 
> guess it just seems to me, the clearer things get, the harder it gets to see 
> them. 
> K. 
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> jeff burk wrote: 
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
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> Greetings 
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> Keith, I do not think Scott offered Lee command of all the Federal Armies. I 
> think the offer was for just one. 
> 
> Jeff Burk 
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> keith mackenzie wrote: 
> Esteemed GDG Member Contributes: 
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> You got roundly taken to task? do you mind if I ask what the tone of those 
> responses may have been? It was suggested to him was it not, and he refused it? 
> doesn't that make it one of the what if's of the CW? I mean, what if he had 
> taken Scott's offer of all the Federal Army's? Would one be taken to task for 
> suggesting he should have? 
> Anyway, the confederates burned the iron works in late june, does anyone know if 
> any of those buildings are still around? Not the burned ones, but maybe the 
> workers houses or something like that? 
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> K. 
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